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Seeing Like a State: How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed MP3 CD – MP3 Audio, May 22, 2018

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Compulsory ujamaa villages in Tanzania, collectivization in Russia, Le Corbusier's urban planning theory realized in Brasilia, the Great Leap Forward in China, agricultural "modernization" in the Tropics-the twentieth century has been racked by grand utopian schemes that have inadvertently brought death and disruption to millions. Why do well-intentioned plans for improving the human condition go tragically awry?In this wide-ranging and original book, James C. Scott analyzes failed cases of large-scale authoritarian plans in a variety of fields. Centrally managed social plans misfire, Scott argues, when they impose schematic visions that do violence to complex interdependencies that are not-and cannot-be fully understood. Further, the success of designs for social organization depends upon the recognition that local, practical knowledge is as important as formal, epistemic knowledge. The author builds a persuasive case against "development theory" and imperialistic state planning that disregards the values, desires, and objections of its subjects. He identifies and discusses four conditions common to all planning disasters: administrative ordering of nature and society by the state; a "high-modernist ideology" that places confidence in the ability of science to improve every aspect of human life; a willingness to use authoritarian state power to effect large- scale interventions; and a prostrate civil society that cannot effectively resist such plans.
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James C. Scott is the Eugene Meyer Professor of Political Science and Anthropology at Yale University and current president of the Association of Asian Studies. He is the author of Weapons of the Weak: Everyday Forms of Peasant Resistance;Domination and the Arts of Resistance: Hidden Transcripts; and The Moral Economy of the Peasant: Rebellion and Subsistence in Southeast Asia, all published by Yale University Press.

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  • Publisher ‏ : ‎ Blackstone Audiobooks; Unabridged edition (May 22, 2018)
  • Language ‏ : ‎ English
  • ISBN-10 ‏ : ‎ 1538552876
  • ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 978-1538552872
  • Item Weight ‏ : ‎ 2.82 ounces
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Reviewed in the United States on March 8, 2013
In this work, James C. Scott is attempting to evaluate high modernist ideology and how it has been implemented through various projects. He is interested in the logic of high modernism, as well as how that logic contributes to the failure of high modernist systems. Through a variety of case studies, including forestry, city planning, linguistic manipulation, collectivization and villagization, Scott evaluates how high modernism was developed, why it was so powerful as an ideology, how it was implemented and why those implementations failed.
Although Scott is focused specifically on high modernist ideology and its uses in the 20th century, there are several themes in this book that directly connect to our readings from previous weeks. Scott frequently talks about the belief in high modernism as if it were a faith. As with the Calvinists and the French Revolutionaries, these men and women believed that there was a problem (backwardness) that needed to be fixed and they held the solution to that problem (modernization). As with our discussion of French modernization, Scott highlights the importance of homogenization. However, Scott goes beyond cultural and linguistic homogenization as ways to exert political and financial control. He also emphasizes how the high modernist preoccupation with homogenization was manifest in agricultural practices, with polycropping being considered backwards and large monocropped farms being seen as the future of agriculture.
One of the strongest parts of Scott’s work is his emphasis on diversity. Scott takes great effort to explain the myopic view of high modernism and how such intense focus on certain aspects of any subject to the exclusion of other parts of the larger picture had such a detrimental impact on the success of high modernist projects. He successfully argues that high modernist plans for city building, collectivation and villagization failed to consider the impact of humans, who were likely to resist change, adapt the new rules to meet their own personal needs and publicly rebel against forced control. Scott uses Jane Jacob’s critique of planned cities as a basis for much of his criticism, citing her thesis that a diverse city where streets filled a variety of purposes was a healthier community.
One of the things that struck me as quiet odd about Scott’s work was his emphasis on gender in the critique of high modernism. He takes great care in emphasizing how important he thinks Jacob’s “woman’s eye” is to her frame of reference and ability to critique high modernist city planning. (p. 138) He also chooses women critics of Lenin and Bolshevism (Rosa Luxemburg and Aleksandra Kolontay). I think that the arguments put forth by these women are strong critiques of high modernist ideology and that Scott makes excellent use of these arguments throughout his book. However, I am skeptical of how he chooses to present these arguments. While I admit that I am no expert in high modernism or gender studies, I find it hard to believe that there were no men who were critical of high modernism, or for that matter, no women who espoused firm high modernist beliefs.
I think that Scott’s work also does an excellent job of highlighting the fact that despite the horrific outcomes of many of these plans, the goal of modernization was not to starve millions of people to death. These men and women were acting based on a system of beliefs they thought held the answer to solving the world’s problems. It is also easy to take the logic of high modernism, with its emphasis on legibility and homogenization, and see the connections to a global system that emphasized cultural homogenization and espoused forced migration and deportation, eventually leading to genocide.
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Reviewed in the United States on June 16, 2015
This book suggests implications I do not think the author intended. Looked at from the left, and explaining things in the vocabulary of Marxist socialist theory, the book laments the top-down nature of lefist policy making in the 20th century, advocating instead for ground-up leftist arrangements.

The first section of the book is a well-researched look at how it suits the purposes of centralized governments to make the citizenry more "legible" - speaking the same language, living sedentary lifestyles in villages, using the same currency and measurement systems. Legibility yields a population that is no longer independent.

The book then goes on to show how a citizenry that is wholly legible becomes dependent on the state and is quickly beggared by an insatiable government. Using the examples of Stalin's collectivization, African ujamaa socialist villagization, US Indian policy, and experimental farming, Scott makes his point again and again.

His comparison is with "high modernist" architecture and city planning, which yields depressing, failed, unlivable places relying on unplanned slums and black market operators for any economic activity. High modernism, with its faith in experts, fails. It "looks" modern, and for faith-based modernizers, looks are enough.

Reality is messy. Human relations in an econmy are messy. They are governed by individuality, local knowledge, and obscure customs that "look" primitive but are time-tested, experimentally-driven winning solutions. Individuals must rely on their initiative, wisdom, prudence, and responsiveness to make a living. "High modernist" solutions wipe that clean and try to substitute reliance on government plans constructed from afar, based on aesthetics, not reality.

High modernism does not foster responsible decision-making, social independence, reasonable negotiation traits, or local competence in the citizenry. It serves only to quell dissent (often by force)in the local communities. The parallels with Obamacare are striking and ominous.

The most interesting conceit in the book is that the leftist naysayers Scott likes to cite are women - Jacobs, Luxembourg - who have special insights and intuitions into the problems of top-down socialist planning. A women's intuition sort of thing?

I have ordered two of his books on resistance:

"Weapons of the Weak" 
Weapons of the Weak: Everyday Forms of Peasant Resistance
"Domination and the Arts of Resistance" 
Domination and the Arts of Resistance: Hidden Transcripts

For more on this topic, read "Why Governments Fail So Often" 
Why Government Fails So Often: And How It Can Do Better
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A different way of understanding our world. I would like to see a revised addition that would analyse recent political developments through a similar lens.